2025年7月22日星期二

China - Has Home Price Bottomed Yet?

China has been on a long property cycle correction; although not the longest fall compared to the 97-03 cycle, it certainly feels like the deepest drop experienced - down 39% from the 2021 peak in Shenzhen for example:

The drop has triggered a lot of support measures in recent months, ranging from policy relaxations to rate cuts. Whilst prices are now back to 2015 levels (red line above), price-to-income ratios have seen even deeper correction - the price-to-disposable income ratio (green line above) is now back to 2007 levels, a full 18-year roundtrip! The less relevant price-to-per-capita-GDP measure has returned to 2015, similar to the price index correction (blue line).

If we looked further back to the Asian Crisis period, the drop in price-income ratios has taken us to even the 1999-2001 period. So are we near a bottom yet?

Cycle bottom near, but not there yet

The market has recently shown some signs of recovery, as the first shoots of rebound has appeared in price statistics - the latest monthly YoY numbers has registered one recovery (green bar below), after the longest period of all cities reporting drops (red bars) continuously since 2024:

Shenzhen price moves (red line above) has always been a lead indicator of national trends - each time the line turns up, the number of cities reporting price rises increase. This time however, the SZ line has not made a reversal yet, suggesting perhaps the odd city rising in the latest monthly stats is but 'counter-trend rallies' rather than trend changes...

This assessment is corroborated by stock analysts out there too, see article 1 for details. The still negative outlook is justified given still very strong global headwinds in both trade wars (article 3) and proxy hot wars, which can both flare up further. On the micro side, the inventory glut remains in need of digesting:

for more charts see here

Both geopolitics and weak retail appetite has been weighing on China's business sentiment, which has stayed in contracting territory in Q2, following a longer period of drops for most of 2023-24:

As a result, both consumer (blue line below) and producer prices stayed neutral (at best) to negative:

The saving grace has been the aggressive rate cuts carried out by the PBoC, taking funding costs to levels significantly below HK/US levels now:

However, the pressure from rate arb is now mounting, especially when most Western nations are seeing their long bonds crash driving up rates. We don't expect this trend to end any time soon, and as a result, China's near record discount vs TBs could be due for mean reversion:

What is the bullish case?

For Shenzhen specifically, the strong momentum of Hongkongers consuming up north seem to be providing some support (article 2), and as the porosity of the SZ-HK border continue to increase, price equalisation could have some further legs to run, benefiting the prices there (more than most other cities).

The rate cuts and increasing rental yields are also tilting fundamentals in favour of owning for end users, and buying for investors. The negative yield gap (currently around 2%, see blue lines below) for home owners however could recover more before buying demand returns in numbers:

As a result, we expect likely another 100-200bps of narrowing - either from rental growth or further rate cuts - before prices begin recovering meaningfully. The timing seems to be more likely 2027 on current trajectories from the chart above.


=====================Article 1====================

Goldman Sachs Says China Home Prices May Drop 10% Before 2027 Market Bottom

2025/06/26 | Iris Hong

China’s property slump could extend into 2027 with a further 10 percent decline in home prices, as policymakers remain cautious about easing measures, according to a Goldman Sachs report released on Wednesday.

[…]

https://www.mingtiandi.com/real-estate/research-policy/goldman-sachs-says-china-home-prices-may-drop-another-10/

=====================Article 2====================

Benefits of Shenzhen/Hong Kong tourism mainly flow one way

2025/06/12

[…]

While Hong Kong tourists travel north to take advantage of cheaper hotels and restaurants, Mainland tourists arriving from Shenzhen are more inclined to take short trips and focus on sightseeing rather than shopping and restaurants. Shenzhen has now overtaken Macau as the most popular weekend destination for Hong Kong residents.

[…]

https://www.savills.com/prospects/cities-benefits-of-shenzhen-hong-kong-tourism-mainly-flow-one-way.html

=====================Article 3====================

Trump Says He'll Set 50 Percent Tariff on Copper

2025/07/08

[…]

“Today, we’re doing copper,” Trump said at a July 8 Cabinet meeting in front of reporters. “I believe the tariff on copper, we’re going to make it 50 percent.”

[…]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/business/trump-to-impose-50-percent-tariff-on-copper-5884328

 

2025年7月14日星期一

【Metro Radio】 新城財經台 新城地產街 20250712

  載於2025年07月12日 【Metro Radio 新城地產街】 

主題: 

》資金流向情況如何?是否有資金回流中港兩地?

》近日氣氛好轉,拆息回落,銀行按揭現金回贈增加,目前樓價見底未?資金有否流入房產市場?

》目前公私營房屋比例七三比,有關比例應否作出轉變?當中基於那些因素考慮?應否增加私樓的比例?

》全年樓價走勢?投資策略部署?股匯債比例?



主持: 林潔瑩

新城連結

2025年6月3日星期二

【胡‧說樓市】樓市展望:聯繫匯率,港元脫鉤,債務危機 20250519

   2025年5月19日


主題:



》今年首季差估署私樓樓價指數跌幅放緩,請問樓市是否開始見底? 自住買家/投資者是否可以入市?

資金從美元資產外流,對比不斷下調的定存利率,本港物業是否已有足夠投資吸引力?

發展商減價出貨的取態,對市場有沒有帶來什麼影響?二手業主會否受制於新盤市場?會怎樣看二手市場的前景?銀行是否願意估足價、願意放貸是這批業主的最大考慮,你會怎樣評估現時銀行借貸的取態?

地緣政治的衝突風險是否仍然存在

》關稅戰暫緩,但市場對美國衰退的憂慮未減,特朗普雖然放話鮑威爾減息,但聯儲局目前正面對滯脹及財政懸崖的難題,未來利率走向如何可以從債息的走勢看到嗎背後的理據是甚麼?



訪問來源:【胡。說樓市】

wuchatprop.com.hk

特此鳴謝

主持: 胡國威

攝影,剪接及製作: 陳迪麟,胡。說樓市團隊

2025年5月13日星期二

Argentina: time to invest after 100 years of socialism/fascism?

After writing extensively during our due diligence trip during Easter to this once richest country on earth, the fundamental economic numbers do point to massive turnaround from very depressed levels, but the one big question that could deter actual commitment to this as an investment target remains: Can President Milei's reforms last?

To understand whether the Milei phenomenon will last, we must look at the global geopolitical pattern at large: we are now in a gigantic anti-establishment wave that will characterise economic cycles for many years to come; and thus Milei may not be a flash in the pan phenomenon of some 'whacko academic madman' hitting a random high. Let us explain this thesis in a bit more detail:

The end of a multi-decade bureaucratic expansionary cycle?
The post-WW2 years have started a period of perhaps well intended, but centrist and interventionist governance wave, typified by deficit spending and ever bigger governments that made these charts look so absolutely lopsided:






The cancerous growth in the public sector led to, for example, too much Gerontocracy (left chart, in USA) enabling permanent politicians to make fortunes trading on insider legislative info, while the governments they are supposed to supervise and scrutinise go into perpetual deficit spending (right chart, not just USA, but in all developed world). The main side effect of this is the explosive increase in tax burden - big governments need big tax incomes to finance - while killing the middle class (note how little regulation there was before WW2):

There are many such charts that demonstrate such post-WW2 cancerous growth of the administrative state, but we will stop at the above three. 

No wonder so many democracies now look like autocracies (see our many UK comments for details), with the state and its establishment allies increasingly targeting real representatives the people voted in as 'deplorables', 'extreme right wing', and 'populists'. That cycle seems to have reversed: now people are voting en masse against the socialist establishment, and bringing back to power, one after another, politicians who vow to fight for the common man,  and not globalist causes:

Note how this movement has turned from a trickle from 2019 into a tsunami by 2025. The momentum of the counter establishment movement was gaining so much speed that the powers that be had to persecute Trump with endless lawfare, put Le Pen in jail to prevent her returning to power in 2007, and disqualify Călin Georgescu so his anti-EU policies will never see the day of light... It has now reached such farcical extent that Germany's spy agency labelled AfD 'extremist entity' to ban the now most popular political force:

This wave of anti-establishment sentiment is reaching a new height in May in the UK, where local elections returned a landslide win by Nigel Farage's Reform party, decimating all other opposition in the process.

Milei - the more daring (or genuine) of the rebels

It is against this context that we view President Milei as a phenomenon that will not vanish overnight, because he is a fresh outsider with policies far more radical than many of the more jaded politicians named in the table above - most of whom having been in politics for far too long, and have become disillusioned by the bureaucratic drag that they know will undermine their policies.

Milei is different - he seems unmotivated by money and position, and he is a more fervent believer of anarcho-capitalism than just about all the rebels listed above (see analysis here for a good summary of his beliefs). What's more, he does not mince his words:











Another example (see link here) of his no holds barred style makes him so transparent to the voters as to where he stands, unlike all politicians out there:

This is why his public spending cut drives (see this video for dramatic effect), although ambitious, could indeed work?

Will Milei succeed?

The biggest question on the minds of investors will be: does Milei have the ability to pull off his reform agenda, not being the leader of a majority party in the parliament? Here is our quick take on his various policy agenda thus far:

One year in, we are delighted to see so many ticks or half ticks in this long list of dramatic social/economic/political reforms in the sick man of America a.k.a. Argentina. So impressed is the current reformist US to have such an ally that the Trump administration seems willing to help Milei with Argentina's debt restructuring efforts (link).

His latest big surgery is to return the Peso to market driven fair values, and is apparently succeeding - below, the black market rate premium (blue area below) has collapsed from 160% pre-Milei to near parity now:

The only previous episode when we had a similar drop was during the term of President Mauricio Macri (2015) when he lifted capital controls. The premium returned after President Alberto Fernández was elected and reinstated strict currency controls (which gave rise to property hoarding as a hedge of hyperinflation that resulted). 

If we were to bet on a new future for Argentina, we need Milei and his policies to stick, at least for a typical 3-5 year minimum investment horizon for properties.

Can Milei be re-elected?

This leads naturally to the next questions - is he still popular? What are his chances of being re-elected?

First on popularity: it is heartening to see him almost as popular now as the day he stormed to power 1.5 years ago - standing at 47% support now vs 49% back in Jan 2024:

It is interesting to see that President Macri, being pro-market as well, had similar popularity levels as Milei, although starting off with much higher popularity than Milei. Across all income strata, it seems the people who support Milei most are the lower middle class and the poorest segments of the society:

And compared to all other heads of states in South America, Milei has the most constant net approval ratings, whilst fellow presidents generally suffering from rising net negative approval ratings:













So the proof of the pudding will be first the Buenos Aires election on 18th May (yes this week!), followed by the national election on 26th October (see here).

Given the widespread anti-establishment uprising around the globe described above, even the Buenos Aires election is seeing new party being formed by the former mayor (like Reform in the UK?).

If one believes in the saying 'the trend is your friend', we probably have a very high chance of free market politicians winning again in Argentina as well...

2025年4月15日星期二

【Metro Radio】 新城財經台 新城地產街 20250412

 載於2025年04月12日 【Metro Radio 新城地產街】 

主題: 

》首季住宅物業市道情況如何?踏入第二季,外圍環境受到特朗普向全球徵收對等關稅影響,全球股市一度大幅下挫,閣下如何看投資環境?負財富效應下,會否影響入市信心?

》估計對那類物業影響會較大?豪宅及中小型住宅走勢又是否同步?

》今年首季發展商都積極推售新盤,但價格仍然貼近二手市場價格,閣下如何評估新盤定價?未來新盤推盤策略如何?開價對市場指標作用?

》另外,北部都會區是本港經濟的新增長點。為加快北都建設,發展局去年12月底邀請市場就北部都會區三個「片區開發」試點提交意向書,以敲定日後公開招標的細節和條款,目標是由今年下半年起至2026年期間,陸續為 3個「片區開發」試點進行招標,早前收到22份家財團意向書?如何規劃發展?



主持: 林潔瑩

嘉賓主持: 戴德梁行估價部董事黎劍明

嘉賓: 高力國際香港研究部主管李婉茵


新城連結:Bricks & Mortar Management 主席兼總裁王震宇